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Monday, May 29, 2006

Tangentially Baseball-Related Items

by Corey

The heat at Jacobs Field this afternoon was quite palpable, as evidenced by this photograph I took:

The heat at Jacobs Field is palpable

Unfortunately, the Indians were not on fire. They were decidedly off fire, as the White Sox won, 11-0. The success of the White Sox frustrates me to no end. Going into today's game, they were hitting, pitching, and fielding at the level of a .557 team, according to Baseball Prospectus' Adjusted Standings. That means their 32-17 record (prior to today's blowout) was 4.7 games better than what they deserve. The Indians, by contrast, are about 3.9 games worse than they deserve to be, having performed at the level of a .569 team. Please note: the Indians have performed better than the White Sox in 2006. Sound familiar?

The Tigers are a slightly different story. Their 35-15 record is 4.9 games ahead of where they ought to be, but their third-order winning percentage of .602 is easily good enough for first place.
            3rd-Order W-L     Actual W-L
Tigers 30.1-19.9 (.602) 35-15 (.700)
Indians 27.9-21.1 (.569) 24-25 (.490)
White Sox 27.3-21.7 (.557) 32-17 (.653)
211 games' worth of watching the White Sox play over their heads has taken its toll on me; still, I am a realist, which is why I recognize that, from now until the end of the season, the Indians are a good bet to fare better than they have over the first two months, while the White Sox and Tigers are good bets to fare worse. Not that it will necessarily be enough for the Indians to overtake them in the standings: the Tribe's Playoff Odds are sitting at 18.0%, and that's before today's little embarassment.

In happier news, I tried one of these:

The wrapper of a Malley's Pronk Bar

Now, I never got to try an Albert Belle Bar back in the day, so I can't make the obvious comparison--I can only review the Pronk Bar on its own merits. I found the packaging to be nice; even though they depict Travis wearing some type of generic, baseball-type uniform, the colors are attractive and the layout is good.

Inside, you find this:

The inside of a Malley's Pronk Bar


This is clearly some product that Malley's already made, but started selling under a different name. It's essentially a Crunch bar, but divided into segments, each with the Malley's logo imprinted on them. I had sincerely hoped, by the way Travis spoke with such gusto about his new candy bar, that we would have ourselves something original, or even interesting, but no. At least LeBron had the opportunity to conduct extensive chemical tests in a laboratory in preparation for Flava23.

Don't get me wrong, though; it still tasted good. It is chocolate, after all.

Posted at 4:07 PM

12 Comments:

Anonymous tim in tampa said…
Thanks for biting the bullet, so to say, about the Pronk bar. I, too, read about how excited Mr. Hafner was about the candy bar, and am disappointed that it's so run-of-the-mill.

Perhaps if they're passing them around and eating them before games, as he said on Rome this week, they need to stop, because they're definitely not helping.
Posted at May 29, 2006 5:32 PM  
Anonymous Ytown Tribe fan said…
Perhaps the ChiSox are simply a better-managed club.

They did the same thing last year, in Ozzie's inaugural season at the helm.

They win the close games and the Tribe wins blowouts and loses close games, in general.

Is it so hard to admit that Guillen is a better manager than Wedge?
Posted at May 29, 2006 6:49 PM  
Blogger roger said…
It's interesting that they could be underachieving. They play bad defense and the pitching has been spotty at best. I would say they've played like a .500 team all year.
Posted at May 29, 2006 7:18 PM  
Blogger Michael said…
I think the whole issue with the pronk bar is, there was too much hype around it. malley's makes some of the best tasting chocolate I've ever had, and their crunch bars are great. It actually took me a little while to realize how much better it is than nestle. While the initial reviews may be mixed, I have faith that in the long run, the pronk bar will be remembered as one of baseball's tastiest candies (right after ballpark mustard).
Posted at May 30, 2006 1:38 AM  
Blogger Corey said…
ytown tribe fan,

If it's true that outperforming (or underperforming) your expected record is the effect of a good (or bad) manager, we would expect the phenomenon to occur with certain managers year after year, even after switching teams, etc. But so far, no manager has shown a strong tendency for always out- or under-performing his expected win total based on runs scored and allowed. Any long-tenured manager, even if he is regarded as a great manager, is just as likely to underperform in a given year as he is to overperform.

Ozzie Guillen has now gone a season and a third in which his club has outperformed their expected win total, but let's not forget that he was also the manager of the White Sox in 2004, in which they underperformed their Pythagorean total. Maybe Guillen does have a rare ability to get his club to outperform its expected record on a consistent basis, but he would be the first, which seems to me unlikely.

Roger,

Having watched the Indians all season, I agree that they have looked like a .500 team or worse. But we may be taking their superior offense for granted. They have scored the 2nd-most runs in the majors. The fact is, they've scored 28 more runs than they've allowed, and that's after yesterday's 11-0 loss. The standings I posted above did not include that game, which means the Tribe had scored 39 more runs than they'd allowed. The pitching and defense side of things has been awful, but not nearly as awful as the offense has been great.
Posted at May 30, 2006 10:58 AM  
Blogger Andy Francis said…
How well does 3rd-order win % typically predict teams' performance?

You use it frequently and I was just curious as to how accurate of a tool it has been historically.
Posted at May 30, 2006 12:47 PM  
Blogger Corey said…
Andy,

Well, it definitely predicts future winning percentage better than actual winning percentage (or even Pythagorean winning percentage). Here is some research on the subject (not sure if a subscription is required).

I'm pretty sure that the correlation between 3rd-order W% and future performance is better than for any other statistic, traditional or otherwise, that's been tested.
Posted at May 30, 2006 1:10 PM  
Blogger roger said…
It's probably because they always seem to do something really dumb at an inopportune moment. TWO run-down double plays this year (yes, both guys tagged out on the same play in a run-down) particularly come to mind. I guess you could blame Wedge, but that's little league stuff. Their run production seems kind of uneven, so I'm probably mentally discounting it. I guess I'm worried. I don't get the feeling they've turned a corner or that they're about to run off 7 or 8 wins.

When is Mota going to get the Riske exile?
Posted at May 30, 2006 1:21 PM  
Blogger Andy Francis said…
Thanks for the response. It looks from that article that eventually actual record becomes a better tool, but not until late in the year, which is logical.
Posted at May 30, 2006 10:09 PM  
Anonymous Veee said…
Your comments about the Pronk Bar are dead on. I, too, was expecting more based on Hafner's statements. I was personally dissatisfied with the amateurish wrapper. They used the same font and design that they always do. Look at the Albert Belle Bar in the link below. Comparing side-by-side with the non-Malley's wrappers really illustrates the difference.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8819614716

Where did you get yours, by the way? Do they sell them at Jacobs Field? I had trouble finding a Malley's location. I had never noticed before that Malley's is more of a west-side establishment.
Posted at May 31, 2006 11:29 PM  
Blogger Corey said…
You're right, Veee, the Pronk Bar wrapper does look disappointingly similar to the Belle Bar.

There's a Malley's store on Chagrin Blvd. near I-271 (at Village Square). There's also one in Solon, one in Valley View, and one downtown, but I think that's it for anyone in or remotely near the east side.
Posted at June 1, 2006 10:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said…
He's in a generic uniform because Malley's got in trouble for using the Indians's name on the label. They are not sold at the stadium. You can only get them through Malley's locations. The candy bar is also exactly the same candy as the Albert Belle Bar and the Wahoo Bar were (just their crunch bar in a different wrapper). If you go into the store there are other Cleveland items available such as a small solid chocolate bar with Indians on it and chocolate foil-wrapped baseballs, Terminal towers, and boxed chocolate with a beautiful picture of the Cleveland skyline on it.
To get the real Malley's experience you have to go to one of the stores with a parlor, Lakewood or North Olmsted are your best bets. Here you can get a Tin Roof sundae, once named for the old stadium because enough were sold each year to cover the stadium.
How do I know all this?
I've worked there for going on 7 years.

Oh, and P.S. THe candy is totally excellent.
Posted at August 24, 2006 11:14 PM  

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